When Do You Cut the Grandparents Out?

I don’t know where to begin with this. This entry is about Clara, my neurotypical child. I am trying to decide whether or not to end contact with my father and his wife. I’ve decided to write about it and hear/read what others have to say. I’m going to try and keep it short, but the entire story is so long and just screwed up that it may go on a bit.

My father has 2 honorary grandchildren, I’ll call them Lori and Zack. Their grandparents passed away many years ago and the one grandmother they do have lives far away. My father and his wife were asked to be Lori and Zack’s grandparents. Their mother was a very close friend of mine a long time ago. This is not the problem. I wish it ended there and we lived in a happy world together, but we don’t.

Without getting too far into the past, I will just talk about what is happening with Clara and her visits to my father’s. I should mention that my dad and his wife do not offer to take Ruby out ever. Ruby makes my dad uncomfortable because she is always naked at home. Ruby’s 6 remember. I can understand that they don’t know how to interact with Ruby, but they were offered by our team of therapists to have one on one learning sessions to learn how to play with Ruby and communicate with Ruby. My dad said he would only do this if my mother did as well. So, it hasn’t happened and they’ve never brought it up again. They only pick up Clara and that happens once every 2 or 3 weeks.

Yesterday, I brought Clara over to their place. While I was there my dad told me that he sees Zack a lot and can see a huge difference between Zack and Clara. He said ‘you wouldn’t believe the stuff that comes out of his mouth.’ I told him that Clara is a very smart kid as well and others have commented on this. He said that Zack is more independent and knows how to do so much more. He also said he thinks it’s because Zack has an older sister to teach him things and Clara doesn’t. He also said that I probably baby Clara more because she’s like my first child. Actually, Ruby is my first child, but my dad doesn’t see Ruby as human.

Anyway, I agreed that I probably do baby Clara a bit more than others because Clara has a lot more to deal with in life than Zack does. Clara doesn’t get to go out very much because we can’t take Ruby to many places. So, she’s home a lot. It took her a little longer than some kids to be social, but she’s only 3.5 and is now playing with other kids. I have seen kids who are 3 and still in cribs and eating in high chairs. My dad is comparing Clara to one kid he sees on a regular basis. The women at the gym daycare have commented on how smart Clara is and they see a lot of kids everyday.

This isn’t the only time he’s said negative things about Clara. Since moving back to my hometown he’s asked me why Clara is always so pale. Another time he told me that he doesn’t think Clara is growing properly. He’s said several times that he’s never seen any kid do certain things that Clara does. The list goes on. He has never said anything positive about Clara. It’s always what she can’t do. Clara is about as neuro typical as they come.

I know when I’m not there, he is probably making comments to Clara about what she doesn’t or can’t do. I don’t want this negativity affecting her. I don’t want him to bring her self esteem down the way he brought mine down for my entire life. Clara is too young to notice right now. But, she is a smart kid and it won’t take long before she gets hurt by something he says to her.

So, I’m asking for advice from anyone who reads this blog. Is it time to cut these people from our lives? Would it be wrong to deny Clara her grandfather?

I’m adding a video of Clara from a year ago. She was 2.5 at the time this video was taken. She is 3.5 now. You can see how well she spoke at that age and how smart she was.

Thanks for reading :)

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10 Comments to “When Do You Cut the Grandparents Out?”

  1. She’s 3 and a half for god’s sake, what’s the race? We walked away from my husband’s family for similar reasons – never had time for Lily but his sister’s kids were just the bee’s knees – Lily started to notice stuff and get upset. That was 9 years ago now, haven’t seen them since. It was a fairly easy decision for my husband. I’m sure the message is for you not Clara, he’s critical of you but can only get to you through Clara. If he can’t be bothered with Ruby either I’d just tell him your family comes as a package. Its kind of frowned upon in society to cherry pick which grandchild you want to be involved with and which you don’t. His feelings are clear about both of them it seems. Family should be supportive and loving not this! My elderly Grandparents drone on about how wonderful my neice is (same age as Charlie) and all the things she does and says. I never hear anything good about Charlie although they do say I’m doing a good job with him as though I’ve been handed a poisoned challice or something. It really bloody hurts. They support us financially with Charlie’s treatments and I’m incredibly grateful for this. I know they love all the children in the family, just some insensitive talk from them and I forgive them becuse they are bordering on Alzheimer’s disease and were wonderful to me during my childhood. Relationships are about benefits. If you see no mutual benefit in the relationship then you must turn your back on it. If there is no love, there is simply no love.

    • Thank you Vicki. I had no idea you parted from your husband’s family. I never thought they’d be this way. Although, I was always compared to Zack and Lori’s mother. She could do no wrong. It ruined our friendship because I grew to resent her. Now I never talk to her. She is very close to my father and his wife. I am happy she has them, but she’s never let me be a part of it. When she asked them to be her kid’s grandparents, she never included me. It’s very hurtful. They used to shit talk me when I lived on the west coast. It’s just a messed up story. My dad is a true narcissist.

      The only benefit to this relationship is the gifts they get the girls for Christmas and birthdays. That’s it. Well that and money they may get later on.

  2. Sorry you’re going through this crap xxx

  3. Hi Michelle!
    My answer isvery straingh to the point!
    I would never again let Cara to go to spend time with anyone (this included all relatives) if they don’t want Rubby around!! Second Clara is only 3.5 yrs old….and as long she is NT she should be living a ‘normal’ kind of life as possible, she will go to PK and she will have
    More friend….in little by little she will see that Her sister is different a she needs to learn how to love, help, accept, respect Ruby.
    Leaving Ruby behind so she goes to see her grandfather is not really the best way yo start… Think about it!
    And is not right that your father says those comments that at end only hurts you as a mom!
    With Rubby experience your knowledge is far advanced than any others mom that dont know autism…
    And why to let other tu hurt your family?? Nobody can show favoritism here!! That pissed me off!!I would really cut the contact and let Gd to deal with your father while you take care of your family and teach your dauthger to love each other for ever! Good luck!! Xoxo

    • Thank you Vanessa.

      This is exactly how I feel about this situation. I kept it going because Clara loves going over there and it was an outing for her. We brought Ruby over a few times when we first moved back and my dad was a nervous wreck. Anything Ruby touched he freaked out over. Ruby felt this and screamed a lot while she was there. I will not bring her back there and they don’t care at ask why.

      Thanks for your input!

  4. Where is the patience? Where is the love? Where is the undertstanding from these BLOOD relatives after all you’ve been through? I too get the “why are your boys always so pale?” comment from my family from time to time, I shoot them a look and it stops. This judgemental behavior; from your very own father no less is beyond reproach! My advice: a family sit down talk, lay it all on the table with each set of grandparents, hear them out, make sure they listen too. If after that they cant be more helpful, more loving & a TON more supportive….buh bye. I’m so sorry that on top of everything, this too must weigh heavily on your heart. xoxoxo ILY and your girls!!!!

    • We have talked many times. He simply doesn’t get it. He is a true Narcissist. He’s never been diagnosed, but he has the disorder. He can’t love me or my kids. Narcissists will find people to idolize and treat better than their children or spouses and he’s always done this. He idolizes my ‘friend’ and her husband and has for years. All my ‘friend’ can ever say to me is ‘oh, I wish he wouldn’t do that.’ She doesn’t care.

      We have an honorary grandmother for the girls and she would NEVER pick my girls over her real grandchildren and I would never allow that. I think it’s time to completely ditch these people :(

  5. michelle, my mom is narcissist. don’t even get me started on her. pictures of herself and her chosen grandchild line the mantel and tops of all furniture. she only does for certain grandchild….she’s been to see my kids twice only this year. she has never helped us with our son and just says “you are doing such a good job with him” and “i wish i could help you somehow” all the while doing, doing & doing more for said grandchild and herself. my childhood was non existent roles totally reversed…i’ve been the parent her the child. Just disgusting. my only saving grace is she lives 2 hrs away. my father not much better.

    • It’s awful isn’t it? He’s said the meanest things to me throughout my life and then denies ever saying them. He once confessed to me years ago about all of the affairs he’s had over the years. About 2 months ago he told me that he’d made all of that up and he was only telling me what he wished had really happened. How stupid does he think I am? I sat there in shock, like ‘is he really telling me this?’

      I have read about NPD and the best advice for the family members they don’t treat well is to cut them out. It’s taken me years, but now I know I have to and I have done it. I told him a few days ago. I can’t even read the nasty emails back. Everything is my fault and nothing is ever his. He’s never done a thing wrong in his life. It’s just insane.

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